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 楼主| 发表于 2021-6-8 11:15:11 | 显示全部楼层
China Will Use "Coercive Power" To Force Digital Yuan On Population

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BY TYLER DURDEN
MONDAY, JUN 07, 2021 - 08:40 PM
It was supposed to be the biggest threat to the reserve status of the dollar (China's denial that it has no desire to replace the USD with the digital yuan only confirms it) since the failed experiment that is the "whatever it takes" euro, but instead it is turning out to be one giant yawn.

While many pundits have argued that China's digital yuan would be a "potentially fatal challenge" to American hegemony according to historian Niall Ferguson, Templeton's Hasenstab saying it could undermine the dollar's role as a reserve currency and even Biden's White House studying the potential threats to the US currency, one month ago we reported that those who’ve actually used the digital yuan in China offer a vastly different response: big shrugs of indifference.

After interviewing users of China's digital currency, Bloomberg noted that they showed little interest in switching from mobile payment systems run by Ant Group and Tencent that have already replaced cash in much of the country, with some openly balking the digital yuan - which recall is programmable and comes with an ad hoc expiration date - and which gives authorities access to real-time data on their financial lives.
“I’m not at all excited,” said Patricia Chen, a 36-year-old who works in the telecom industry and was one of the more than 500,000 people in Shenzhen eligible to take part in the trial. The lukewarm responses of the seven participants in China's great monetary experiment underscored the major challenge facing President Xi's government as it lays the groundwork for adoption at home and abroad. And, as we noted last month, "even if authorities ultimately convince - or rather force - citizens to embrace the digital yuan, it’s unclear how they can do the same with international consumers and businesses already wary of China’s capital controls, Communist Party-dominated legal system and state surveillance apparatus."

It's also why with the Yuan's share of global payments seemingly capped at around 3% in recent years - in no small part due to China's closed capital account and great monetary firewall - a digital version of the currency is unlikely to boost its share by much more than 1 percentage point, according to Zennon Kapron, managing director of Singapore-based consulting firm Kapronasia.

“The global impact will be very small” barring structural changes to China’s economy and financial system, said Kapron, author of “Chomping at the Bitcoin: The Past, Present and Future of Bitcoin in China.”

Those familiar with China's grand ambitions suspect that Xi has high hopes for international use of the digital yuan as he tries to lessen his country’s reliance on the U.S.-led global financial system. But so far at least, Chinese policy makers have given mixed signals about their ambitions in public.

As Bloomberg reports, Zhu Jun, head of the central bank’s international department said in an article last month that China faces an “important window” to promote global use of yuan as U.S.-China decoupling threatens to spread to finance from trade, technology and investment. She said China “should take advantage of the early progress” in the digital yuan’s development to explore potential areas for internationalization.

There is just one problem: nobody can figure out why they need to use a digital currency which allows authorities to snoop on their every activity, when existing alternatives offer everything the digital yuan can do.
And speaking of China's "coercive" tactics to force its currency upon the population, over the weekend Bloomberg penned an op-ed about the digital Yuan that suggests it might be soft launched with the 2022 Winter Olympics; and that it may operate more like the Hong Kong Dollar than a Central Bank Digital Coin, in that the liability may sit on the commercial issuer’s balance sheet, fully backed by CNY reserves. This - as Rabobank's Michael Every writes - obviously won’t make it very attractive to banks, businesses, or consumers happy with current e-payment systems. As the op-ed notes, one would then have to *compel* them to use it via “the state’s coercive power.” For example, paying civil servants in e-CNY; or, more importantly, demanding tax payment in e-CNY to force people to earn them, so creating a natural demand.

The full op-ed from Bloomberg's Andy Mukherjee is below:

Digital Yuan May Prove Hong Kong Dollar's Cousin

The stronger the interest in China’s coming digital currency, the less we seem to know about it. Sifting through comments by officials thought to be the brains behind the project, Capital Economics’ chief Asia economist Mark Williams has raised an interesting question: What if the e-CNY, as some are beginning to call the new electronic cash, is not at all a central bank digital currency?

Most of us are by now familiar with electronic money, but popular apps like PayPal or Alipay are linked to bank accounts. A true central bank digital currency will bypass lenders and make us directly the customers of monetary authorities. We’ll use the liability of a central bank to pay for coffee or a book.

The excitement with the digital yuan — or the FedCoin or BritCoin — is precisely because of this: Tokenized money is supposed to be an IOU of a central bank, just like physical cash. We may use an ATM to draw down our accounts, but as soon as we do, the bank owes us less. The state owes us more. Digital cash has been conceptualized the same way. When we transfer funds from a savings account into our digital wallets, the commercial bank goes out of the picture, and the central bank steps in. Tokens make credit risk disappear from settlements. Transactions can remain anonymous unless the monetary authority wants to lift the hood to check for money-laundering.
However, if Williams is right, then e-CNY, which is believed to be heading for a soft launch coinciding with the 2022 Beijing Winter Olympics, may not be a claim on the People’s Bank of China. Then, “It isn’t strictly a CBDC at all,” he says. It may, in fact, be a digital relative of the Hong Kong dollar.

Since 1846, banknotes in the city have been the liability of commercial issuers. The three banks that supply everyday money maintain full reserves with the Hong Kong Monetary Authority. That’s why nobody sitting on a pile of Hong Kong dollars is anxious about the creditworthiness of HSBC Holdings Plc, Standard Chartered Plc or Bank of China (Hong Kong) Ltd.

Digital yuan may have a similar design, according to Williams’s reading of former PBOC Governor Zhou Xiaochuan’s statements. The e-CNY will be the liability of the bank or fintech sponsor of digital wallets. They will issue tokens, each worth 1 yuan, and they will maintain reserve assets in their accounts with the central bank in the ratio of 1:1.

Customers sleep easy, though there’s a cost for intermediaries. Suppose a saver has 100 yuan in a Chinese bank. The major institution that holds her money has to keep 12.5% in required reserves with the PBOC. The rest is free for the lender to seek the best possible return. If the user moves funds to her e-CNY wallet, the bank would have to keep the full 100 yuan with the PBOC. In a pure digital currency model, the bank would have lost the entire deposit, something that no central bank running a digital cash pilot or experiment wants. However, if to retain a deposit, the lender has to put up cash for the entire amount, it may still be forced to curb advances. What bank would embrace a product like that?

That’s one reason why Williams seems to think that the digital yuan will be a hard sell. Consumers in China are already getting all the flexibility they want with Alipay or WeChat Pay, which are entrenched and offer highly innovative uses. Similarly, banks will be loath to lock 100% of even a part of their deposits in idle reserves. The duopoly of Alipay and WeChat Pay, which processes 94% of China’s third-party mobile-phone payments, will be reluctant to give up their rich harvest of consumer data.

So how to make the digital yuan work?


A neat solution — as with every form of money, according to the Chartalist theory — is to use the state’s coercive power. All that authorities need to do is to pay civil servants and demand tax payments only in official digital currency. Payment platforms will then have no option except to offer an e-CNY alternative. In a few years, offering customers such a choice might even become mandatory.

As Williams says, “Left to the market, e-CNY is unlikely to succeed. But the government doesn’t have to leave it to the market.”

China’s long-standing ambition to challenge the dollar’s hegemony in global commerce hasn’t gone anywhere. A digital yuan that’s a popular means of payment overseas, especially in the Belt-and-Road network, would reinforce that goal. But before that, Beijing has to ensure widespread domestic use. So policy makers’ more immediate motivation may be to curb the sway of local tech titans, with minimum damage to banks’ deposit base.

The final architecture of the new currency is still unknown, but conceiving e-CNY as a cousin of the Hong Kong dollar — a synthetic central bank digital currency issued by banks and payment firms — and flexing the muscles of state power might tick most of the boxes.
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-6-8 11:32:03 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 spid 于 2021-6-8 11:35 编辑

High-Ranking Chinese Defector Reportedly Working With DIA Has "Direct Knowledge" Of China's Bioweapons Program

SATURDAY, JUN 05, 2021 - 08:30 PM
Authored by Jennifer Van Laar via RedState.com,

A person believed to be among the highest-ranking defectors ever to the United States from the People’s Republic of China has been working with the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) for months, sources inside the intelligence community have told RedState on condition of anonymity.

The defector has direct knowledge of special weapons programs in China, including bioweapons programs, those sources say.

The information provided to RedState corroborates and clarifies Thursday evening’s reporting by journalist Adam Housley.

RedState’s sources say that’s partially true. FBI Director Christopher Wray was “ambushed” with the information, they say, and Langley was also unaware. Sources say DIA leadership kept the defector within their Clandestine Services network to prevent Langley and the State Department from accessing the person, whose existence was kept from other agencies because DIA leadership believes there are Chinese spies or sources inside the FBI, CIA, and several other federal agencies.

More information will be published as it becomes available to RedState.

Sources tell RedState the defector has been with the DIA for three months and that he has provided an extensive, technically detailed debrief to US officials. In DIA’s assessment, the information provided by the defector is legitimate.

Sources say the level of confidence in the defector’s information is what has led to a sudden crisis of confidence in Dr. Anthony Fauci, adding that U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) personnel detailed to DIA have corroborated very technical details of information provided by the defector.
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-6-8 11:34:38 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 spid 于 2021-6-8 11:38 编辑
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High-Ranking Chinese Defector Reportedly Working With DIA Has "Direct Knowledge" Of China's Bioweapo ...

TheMadTeaBagger
none of this is accidental. what has and is being done to OUR country and countries around the world is being done by design. this is the culmination of many years of manipulation and planning. this is about controlling and enslaving the whole of humanity. however there is something they overlooked. the overlooked the will of the people not just here in the United States but all over the world. there are many people who around this country who have been preparing for years because they didnt know exactly what was coming but they knew something was coming. if you think for one minute that the people are going to just lay down and accept the chains of communism you are gonna be sadly mistaken.  

Maisiemoo
1 /9/21 is september so it's not already happened yet Martin.

dahmoronsucks
Never will happen either. Just morons trying to keep the gravy flowing into their beggar's cup.

dahmoronsucks
You have to 'trust the plan'.

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I don't trust Chinese defectors either.

DeploribusUnum
FB, Google/youtube, MSM and Twitter all need to be sued for covering for China and election fraud.

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Forget about this Wuhan red herring, Martin. ... The plandemic planners in the U.S. and Europe didn't base the carefully calculated implementation of their whole plandemic scheme on some fortuitous happenstance taking place in China at just the right moment. ... Duh!
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5G weapons were apparently used in wuhan causing an in-ability of people's blood to take up oxygen,  though that and what might have also happened in Italy involving 5G probably sounds a little WuWu. Look into it.

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 楼主| 发表于 2021-6-8 11:41:59 | 显示全部楼层
spid 发表于 2021-6-8 11:15
China Will Use "Coercive Power" To Force Digital Yuan On Population

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中国将使用“强制力量”迫使数字人民币对人口使用

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2021 年 6 月 7 日星期一 - 晚上8:40
这应该是对美元储备地位的最大威胁(中国否认它不想用数字人民币取代美元只是证实了这一点)因为失败的实验是“不惜一切代价”欧元,但结果却是一个巨大的哈欠。

历史学家尼尔·弗格森 (Niall Ferguson) 表示,尽管许多专家认为中国的数字人民币将对美国霸权构成“潜在的致命挑战”,但邓普顿的哈森斯塔布表示,这可能会削弱美元作为储备货币的作用,甚至拜登的白宫也在研究对美国霸权的潜在威胁。美元,一个月前我们报道说,那些在中国实际使用过数字人民币的人给出了截然不同的反应:冷漠的耸了耸肩。

在采访了中国数字货币用户后,彭博社指出,他们对转换蚂蚁集团和腾讯运营的移动支付系统几乎没有兴趣,这些系统已经在中国大部分地区取代了现金,一些人公开反对数字人民币 - 召回是可编程的并附带一个临时到期日期——这使当局可以访问有关其财务状况的实时数据。
“我一点也不兴奋,”36 岁的 Patricia Chen 说,她在电信行业工作,是深圳有资格参加试验的 50 万多人之一。中国伟大货币实验的七位参与者的冷淡反应凸显了习主席政府面临的重大挑战,因为它为国内外采用奠定了基础。而且,正如我们上个月指出的那样,“即使当局最终说服 - 或者更确切地说是强迫 - 公民接受数字人民币,目前还不清楚他们如何对已经对中国的资本管制持谨慎态度的国际消费者和企业做同样的事情,共产党主导的法律制度和国家监督机构。”

这也是为什么近年来人民币在全球支付中的份额似乎被限制在 3% 左右——这在很大程度上是由于中国封闭的资本账户和强大的货币防火墙——货币的数字版本不太可能将其份额提高更多新加坡咨询公司 Kapronasia 的董事总经理 Zennon Kapron 表示,这一比例超过 1 个百分点。

“全球影响将非常小”,除非中国经济和金融体系发生结构性变化,“咬比特币:中国比特币的过去、现在和未来”一书的作者卡普伦说。

那些熟悉中国宏大雄心的人怀疑,在试图减轻中国对美国主导的全球金融体系的依赖之际,习近平对数字人民币的国际使用寄予厚望。但至少到目前为止,中国政策制定者在公开场合就其雄心壮志发出了不同的信号。

正如彭博社报道的那样,央行国际司司长朱军上个月在一篇文章中表示,随着中美脱钩可能从贸易、技术和投资扩展到金融领域,中国面临着促进人民币全球使用的“重要窗口”。 . 她说,中国“应该利用数字人民币发展的早期进展”,探索国际化的潜在领域。

只有一个问题:当现有的替代品提供数字人民币可以做的一切时,没有人能弄清楚为什么他们需要使用一种允许当局窥探他们每项活动的数字货币。
谈到中国将其货币强加给民众的“强制”策略,布隆伯格周末撰写了一篇关于数字人民币的专栏文章,暗示它可能会在 2022 年冬季奥运会上软启动;并且它可能更像港元而不是中央银行数字硬币,因为负债可能位于商业发行人的资产负债表上,完全由人民币储备支持。这 - 正如荷兰合作银行的 Michael Every 所写 - 显然不会使它对银行、企业或对当前电子支付系统感到满意的消费者非常有吸引力。正如专栏文章所指出的那样,然后必须*强迫*他们通过“国家的强制力”来使用它。例如,以电子人民币支付公务员工资;或者,更重要的是,要求以e-CNY纳税,迫使人们赚钱,从而创造自然需求。

彭博社的 Andy Mukherjee 的全文如下:

数字人民币可能证明港元的表亲

对中国即将推出的数字货币的兴趣越强烈,我们似乎对它的了解就越少。凯投宏观首席亚洲经济学家马克威廉姆斯通过被认为是该项目背后的大脑的官员们的评论进行筛选,提出了一个有趣的问题:如果 e-CNY(有些人开始称之为新的电子现金)根本不存在会怎样?央行数字货币?

我们大多数人现在都熟悉电子货币,但像 PayPal 或支付宝这样的流行应用程序都与银行账户相关联。真正的央行数字货币将绕过贷方,让我们直接成为货币当局的客户。我们将使用中央银行的负债来支付咖啡或一本书的费用。

数字人民币——或 FedCoin 或 BritCoin——的兴奋正是因为:代币化的货币应该是中央银行的借据,就像实物现金一样。我们可能会使用 ATM 来提取我们的账户,但一旦我们这样做,银行欠我们的钱就会减少。国家欠我们的更多。数字现金也以同样的方式被概念化。当我们将储蓄账户中的资金转入我们的数字钱包时,商业银行会退出,而中央银行会介入。代币使信用风险从结算中消失。交易可以保持匿名,除非货币当局想要揭开面纱来检查洗钱活动。
然而,如果威廉姆斯是对的,那么据信将在 2022 年北京冬奥会期间软启动的 e-CNY 可能不会对中国人民银行提出索赔。然后,“严格来说,它根本不是 CBDC,”他说。事实上,它可能是港元的数字亲戚。

自 1846 年以来,该市的纸币一直是商业发行人的责任。提供日常货币的三间银行在香港金融管理局保持全额准备金。这就是为什么坐在一堆港元上没有人担心汇丰控股、渣打或中国银行(香港)有限公司的信誉。

根据威廉姆斯对前中国人民银行行长周小川的声明的解读,数字人民币可能具有类似的设计。e-CNY 将由银行或数字钱包的金融科技赞助商承担。他们将发行代币,每个价值 1 元,他们将按照 1:1 的比例在他们的央行账户中保留储备资产。

客户睡得很安稳,但中间商要付出代价。假设一个储蓄者在一家中国银行有 100 元。持有她资金的主要机构必须在中国人民银行保留 12.5% 的法定准备金。其余的由贷方免费寻求最佳回报。如果用户将资金转移到她的 e-CNY 钱包,银行将不得不在中国人民银行保留 100 元。在纯数字货币模型中,银行会损失全部存款,这是运行数字现金试点或实验的中央银行所不希望的。但是,如果要保留存款,贷方必须为全部金额提供现金,它仍可能被迫遏制预付款。哪家银行会接受这样的产品?

这就是威廉姆斯似乎认为数字人民币将很难卖出的原因之一。中国的消费者已经通过支付宝或微信支付获得了他们想要的所有灵活性,它们根深蒂固并提供高度创新的用途。同样,银行也不愿意将其 100% 的存款甚至部分存款锁定在闲置准备金中。支付宝和微信支付的双头垄断处理了中国 94% 的第三方手机支付,它们将不愿放弃他们丰富的消费者数据。

那么如何让数字人民币发挥作用呢?


一个巧妙的解决方案——就像根据宪章主义理论对任何形式的货币一样——是使用国家的强制力。当局所需要做的就是仅以官方数字货币支付公务员工资并要求纳税。支付平台将别无选择,只能提供电子人民币替代品。几年后,为客户提供这样的选择甚至可能成为强制性要求。

正如威廉姆斯所说,“留给市场,电子人民币不太可能成功。但政府不必把它留给市场。”

中国挑战美元在全球贸易中的霸权地位的长期雄心并没有消失。作为海外流行支付方式的数字人民币,尤其是在“一带一路”网络中,将强化这一目标。但在此之前,北京必须确保在国内广泛使用。因此,政策制定者更直接的动机可能是遏制当地科技巨头的影响,同时将对银行存款基础的损害降至最低。

新货币的最终架构仍然未知,但将 e-CNY 视为港元的表亲——一种由银行和支付公司发行的合成中央银行数字货币——并展示国家权力的肌肉可能会影响大部分盒子。
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-6-8 13:04:03 | 显示全部楼层
spid 发表于 2021-6-8 11:34
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none of this is accidental. what has and is being done to OUR country and countries ...

如今中国在国外论坛的出镜率有点高,虽然大部分是负面的。 评论里视频的播报员叫Martin, 回复最火的一个评论主要是关于他的发型的。

报道里所谓的高等级研究人员其实是香港大学的博士后,在中国副教授稍微才有点人样,助理教授也是满地爬,博士后就更不用说了,这个“high-ranking”可很不符合现实,其实即使在欧美,博士后也是临时工。
我感觉有些人被忽悠了。


美国人民还是很有幽默感和有创造力的, 5G武器呜呜作响可以让人血氧降低?哈哈,无厘头的日常,病毒搞得大伙不能到处跑都憋得很。

Hercule Poirot的评论很犀利。
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发表于 2021-6-10 13:54:23 | 显示全部楼层
spid 发表于 2021-6-8 11:41
谷歌插件翻译的中文版

中国将使用“强制力量”迫使数字人民币对人口使用

数字尼玛个人民币,就冲着丫的股票制度,分红扣股价这样的奇葩思路,这个数字人民币能是什么好鸟?
简直把本宝宝气炸了!
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spid 发表于 2021-6-8 13:04
如今中国在国外论坛的出镜率有点高,虽然大部分是负面的。 评论里视频的播报员叫Martin, 回复最火的一个 ...

病毒溯源不应该是科研界的事吗?
各种搞,非把科研政治化。
自从新冠疫情爆发以来一直就是各种政治化, 烦不烦。
中国的生物武器,呵呵呵,就它们外行指挥内行的构架,最适合大忽悠,然后搞管理的捅几个漏洞也是顺理成章的,因为搞管理的都是行政系的自己人,所以丫们捅了漏洞还不准人说,好比前几天被杀的复旦院书记,已经被你党追封为同志烈士了。
这样的系统,出什么原创性的大发现,高端生物武器,不是看不起丫,反正本宝宝根本不信。
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发表于 2021-6-10 22:08:08 | 显示全部楼层
Remdesivir 发表于 2021-6-10 14:10
病毒溯源不应该是科研界的事吗?
各种搞,非把科研政治化。
自从新冠疫情爆发以来一直就是各种政治化,  ...

姜文华的遭遇绝对不是个例。
海外还没回的都长点心,绝对不是个例,其实是非常普遍的现象,大量在国内没有裙带关系的海归都处于这个境地。
至于复旦发文追封王书记,只能说呵呵,官官相护没完没了。
垃圾的官僚体制,劣币驱逐良币
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-6-23 13:30:16 | 显示全部楼层
零对冲上说,中国的出入境限制至少还要持续一年

China To Keep COVID Border Restrictions For At Least Another Year

BY TYLER DURDEN
TUESDAY, JUN 22, 2021 - 06:25 PM
As Beijing contends with a COVID outbreak in Guangdong that has spread to an important manufacturing hub while exacerbating issues at a port in Shenzen, WSJ reports that Chinese officials are preparing to keep their pandemic border restrictions in place for at least another year as officials scramble to suppress mutant strains like the "Delta" variant.

A provisional timeline that would see restrictions lifted during the second half of next year was reportedly set during a mid-May meeting of the State Council, Beijing's equivalent of the president's cabinet. The meeting was also attended by officials from the Foreign Ministry as well as China's National Health Commission, among other departments.

As WSJ explains, the new cautious attitude is being drive by a pair of extremely sensitive upcoming events: China will host the winter Olympics in February. Later, a once-in-a-decade transition of power within the CCP is set for November. The Party Congress is expected to culminate with President Xi Jinping securing a third term in office as he prepares to extend his rule over the world's largest country beyond the customary two terms.

Since the COVID-19 outbreak first erupted in Wuhan in late 2019, China has taken heavy handed measures to stamp out the virus that are still on display today in the areas where COVID lockdowns are in effect. By restricting visas to those who have already been vaccinated and maintaining quarantine requirements of 14 days for all visitors upon arrival, China's health officials have successfully combated imported cases.

As the pandemic worsened, Beijing - which once criticized President Trump's travel restrictions - became one of the most fastidious countries pertaining to its border controls. Beijing has been accelerating its vaccine rollout, and economists at Goldman Sachs expect 80% of Chinese adults to be fully vaccinated by the fall.

At this point, Beijing would likely relax travel restrictions for countries with high vaccination rates, with countries that recognize Chinese vaccines likely seeing first priority.

It's expected that once China does ease restrictions, travel between the mainland, Hong Kong and Macau would be the first to see restrictions lifted. Both Hong Kong and Macau haven't reported any new infections in weeks. China's biggest flareup is currently centered in the southern province of Guangdong, which isn't far from the two special administrative regions.
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发表于 2021-6-23 13:39:46 | 显示全部楼层
spid 发表于 2021-6-23 13:30
零对冲上说,中国的出入境限制至少还要持续一年

China To Keep COVID Border Restrictions For At Least A ...

爱咋咋吧, 本宝宝现在只想去卡梅隆的农场打工
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